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 Post subject: Re: Who rules America?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:34 pm 
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Unaltered AP photograph of George W. Bush, taken at a fundraiser for Republican congressional candidate Bob Beauprez in Denver, Colorado September 27, 2002



American foreign policy is revisiting the most brutal period in our history. George W. Bush has resurrected the scourge of Manifest Destiny, a depraved philosophy that states we are morally compelled by God Almighty to kill weaker people and steal their land. There is no scriptural evidence that this is the covenant of Jehovah or Jesus or Mohammad or Buddha; the God whose will is now being carried out more closely resembles Attila the Hun. The stated desire for world domination has some observers comparing Bush to Adolf Hitler. It is a comparison that is entirely inappropriate - Hitler did not pretend to love the innocent civilians he was slaughtering.

On the home front, there is also an unwelcome blast from the past. As has happened so many times in American history, conservatives are expediently detecting the scent of treason in the air. The moon is full, and the blood is rising in the wolf. Right-wingers are now working themselves into the irrational, frenzied state that precedes the hunt, lustfully anticipating the carnage they are about to inflict. Yet again, conservatives are patriotically preparing to lay waste to their natural born prey: the evil ones amongst us who endanger this sacred land by failing to conform to the Lord’s fascist agenda.

Having fostered imperialism abroad and McCarthyism at home, and with the stock market teetering on the edge of collapse, Bush is closing in on a Trifecta for the ages. Add the fact that he previously prevented blacks from voting, throw in the current discrimination against citizens who physically resemble the enemy, and Bush has delivered a reprise of the worst of twentieth century America – all deftly compressed into less than two years

The Bush record is a logical extension of what happened in 2000. The theft of that election was not just a power grab – it was a policy statement by someone who has contempt for democracy and the rule of law. The inevitable result is the introduction of the Bush Doctrine. It declares that, while the United States would prefer to behave legally, "We will not hesitate to act alone, if necessary, to exercise our right of self-defense by acting pre-emptively." The Bush Doctrine is the latest incarnation of the Manson Doctrine, which clearly states, “I reserve the right to kill you if I feel like it.”

This is not the best of America.

America at its best exports freedom and democracy, not death and destruction. One of the shining moments in our history occurred when the Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe, even the part of Europe that had just tried to kill us. After defeating our enemies, we fed them and then helped to create free societies in which they could thrive. As a result, we turned adversaries into allies. Contrast this approach with the current situation in Afghanistan, where Bush has replaced the Taliban with thugs of his own and left the peasants to fend for themselves - without food or shelter - by growing opium poppies.

America at its best allows people to read library books without having the Attorney General pass judgment on their selections, and go to museums without being monitored by FBI agents, and publicly demonstrate against government policy without being harassed.

The best of America is George Washington declining to become king because he preferred to live as an equal rather than rule as a sovereign. This stands in sharp contrast to the current George, who attempts to rule as a sovereign even though he fails to qualify as an equal.

The best of America is Abraham Lincoln imploring his countrymen to avoid war by listening to the better angels of their nature. It is quite different than imploring Congress to slash Medicare benefits for old Americans in order to help underwrite the cost of sending young Americans off to die.

The best of America is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., risking and ultimately sacrificing his own life so that others could be free at last. Personal sacrifice is alien to the man who now insists that our country pay a huge toll in blood and treasure to satiate the greed of his campaign contributors.

America is a great country when we follow the lead of great people.

And then there is the America that is led by George W. Bush. While the litany of ways in which Bush has disgraced our nation is seemingly endless, one example is especially compelling. Under Bush, self-proclaimed child of God, America is currently torturing foreign nationals who are suspected of committing terrorism. This return to the caves is cheered by the ruling class and their echoes in the mainstream media, who emphasize that our sadism is different than that of Torquemada and Idi Amin because we are the good guys. The conduct of the Bush administration must always be viewed through this prism, because merely looking at the facts as they exist would lead a moral person to some very troubling and socially unacceptable conclusions. The prevailing wisdom among America’s elite opinion makers is that torturing captured foes is an unpleasant but essential part of our noble fight against barbarism.

The dungeon also beckons indigenous enemies of the state. Bush is petitioning the courts to permit “coercive interrogations” of American citizens who are not even accused of terrorism. The current descent into totalitarian savagery qualifies as one of those many things that are questioned only by traitors.

There is an ongoing struggle between the good America and the bad. It was seen when Dalton Trumbo courageously imperiled his career by refusing to betray his friends before the House Un-American Activities Committee, while Ronald Reagan cravenly informed on law-abiding people in order to save his own skin. It is seen when Congressman Jim McDermott – who served with distinction in the United States Navy in Vietnam – desperately tries to avert an avoidable war because he doesn’t want innocent people on either side to die, while Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott – who served with distinction in the Hair Club For Men in Mississippi – enthusiastically advocates sending other people’s children off to lose their lives for Exxon Mobil.

To Bush and his followers, dissent is indistinguishable from treason. The concept of “freedom and justice for all” never really caught on with conservatives, who have always seen more virtue in “might makes right”. Their philosophy is, ironically enough, Darwinism in its purest form. Conservatives govern on the basis that a well-ordered social structure requires the powerful to strengthen their dominance over the weak. No matter how much Bush tries to pretty up this vulgar philosophy with his mangled rhetoric, compassionate conservatism can ultimately be distilled to its essence: “You do as I say, and no one gets hurt.” This applies equally to the people in the Middle East and the people in the Middle West. America is now being governed by Corleone family values, with Fredo calling the shots.

It has always been true that, when the commander-in-chief rings the war bell, many Americans start drooling. We depend on the personal honor of our leader not to abuse this Pavlovian power. If the occupant of the White House has no honor, then the lone superpower is vulnerable to fits of megalomania. The same ignorant philosophy that insisted, “What’s Good For General Motors Is Good For America” now gives us, “What’s Good For America Is Good For The World.” The world isn’t so sure, so it’s time to lock and load.

The war against terrorism is a worthy one; a good first step would be to get a competent commander-in-chief who prioritizes increasing national security over increasing the oil depreciation allowance. In any case, our greatest struggle is not with dictators or terrorists; it is an internal battle. Will we embrace the principles we constantly claim to cherish, or succumb to the base instincts that are so easily manipulated by demagogues?

Ultimately, the American people will decide whether war is better than peace and conformity is better than freedom. Bush can insist on creating Pax Americana, but he has not consolidated enough power – yet – to act in defiance of an aroused public. If the people of this country do not yearn for a world that exists only to increase the profits of oil companies and defense contractors, then we must take a stand. If we do not want to live in a nation where opposing perpetual war is an act of sedition, then we must register that view at the ballot box.

The crucial yet unspoken issue in the upcoming election is whether Manifest Destiny and McCarthyism were disasters that are best left to the dustbin of history, or whether they are blueprints for governing the United States in the twenty-first century. The Republicans have embraced Bush’s determination to build an empire in the name of all that is holy, while disdaining Benjamin Franklin’s admonition against trading essential liberty for temporary safety. The Democrats have shown no inclination to rule the world, and this alone is enough to make them virtuous by comparison.

The events of the past two years have clearly proven that, in contemporary politics, the lesser of two evils is significantly less evil. There is definitely more than a dime’s worth of difference between the two major political parties: one of them wants the government of the United States to forcefully eradicate dissent wherever it exists, and the other doesn’t.

On Election Day, Americans should reject the return of expansionism abroad and repression at home by voting for the congressional candidates of the Democratic Party.

More David Podvin

Podvin, the Series

1. The Aztec Account of the Spanish Conquest of Mexico.

http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/aztec.html



2. Manifest Destiny. The Philosophy That Created A Nation

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/Emanifest/manif1.htm



3. The Mexican-American War.

http://www.historyguy.com/Mexican/American_War.html



4. The Mexican War.

http://www.1nstar.com/mall/texasinfo/mexicow.htm



5. Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

http://history.acusd.edu/gen/text/diplo ... dalgo.html


6. The Death of the West. Pat Buchanan


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 Post subject: Re: Who rules America?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:53 pm 
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Ok, you have freed yourself from capitalist mainstream media. The next step would be to apply the same critical reading and watching skills to alternative media. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Who rules America?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:57 pm 
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Ok, you have freed yourself from capitalist mainstream media. The next step would be to apply the same critical reading and watching skills to alternative media. Good luck!


Let him signal it then if somebody can separate his soup or his drink out to a republican or a democrat. All of the party nonsense together with the religions, it was found out because of that only , that dividing the people_nation, let it be incited for each other, and let them pillage freely in the background meanwhile.


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 Post subject: Re: Who rules America?
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Blurey wrote:
Let him signal it then if somebody can separate his soup or his drink out to a republican or a democrat. All of the party nonsense together with the religions, it was found out because of that only , that dividing the people_nation, let it be incited for each other, and let them pillage freely in the background meanwhile.

Again, Google struggles with beautiful an poetic language Magyar.
But I guess I know that you speak against "divide and rule".
You know what, I was very much influenced by some books of your compatriot László_Mérő. He writes about game theory. Game theory states that what is best depends on the game.
What I want to say is, when it comes to cooperation, being devided by prejudice is a bad thing. But when it comes to developing independent solutions, being somewhat isolated can be good.


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I prefer György Lukács, particularly his work - History and Class Consciousness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Luk%C3%A1cs

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Class consciousness is easy ;-)

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thank you! "Again, Google struggles with beautiful an poetic language Magyar."

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/wal-mart-to ... obally-1...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... c2yHN2y3AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... yx48rLla7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... -vZOeuOdfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... v3yDu3xM3s

An American, who knew it, we the thunder. Theodore Roosevelt an American president made a statement about the Hungarians so:
All of the civilized world is Hungary's debtor for his past. When America was in Europe's bee yet, Hungary hindered the barbarians' expansion, Hungary preserved the civilized world's safety. There is not a brighter history than the Hungarian nation's. Our history after all lie!


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 Post subject: Re: Who rules America?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:49 am 
George Soros’ Next Color Revolution: Europe

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/george-soros-next-color-revolution-europe_102015

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Every time I see the old, good George Soros saying something about democracy and European values, I know that something is going to happen. This way the case of Ukraine, when George argued that democracy is the most important and when he says that European values are most important and that is why we must accept million refugees every year. How will it end? Probably as usual: fires, riots, overthrowing governments and total destabilization in Europe, more or less as it ended up recently in Ukraine. However, this time, ‘democracy’ and European values are installed on a much wider scale and by pretty determined are going to bring a ‘colour revolution’ from the Middle East to the heart of dying Europe.


Black Wednesday

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

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In politics and economics, Black Wednesday is 16 September 1992, when the British Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after it was unable to keep the pound above its agreed lower limit in the ERM. George Soros, the most high-profile of the currency market speculators, made over £1 billion[1] in profit by short selling sterling.


In short, this was the day Soros helped himself to both mine, and my wife's houses, in one fell swoop and f**k all we could do about it, no matter how many hours we worked. When, America, is he coming after your houses? It shouldn't be long now, but do you think you will get any sympathy from me? You who allow a man like him to exist!


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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015 ... abg=1&_r=0


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A mathematical take on conspiracy theories: On the Viability of Conspiratorial Beliefs by David Robert Grimes
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Conspiratorial ideation is the tendency of individuals to believe that events and power relations are secretly manipulated by certain clandestine groups and organisations. Many of these ostensibly explanatory conjectures are non-falsifiable, lacking in evidence or demonstrably false, yet public acceptance remains high. Efforts to convince the general public of the validity of medical and scientific findings can be hampered by such narratives, which can create the impression of doubt or disagreement in areas where the science is well established. Conversely, historical examples of exposed conspiracies do exist and it may be difficult for people to differentiate between reasonable and dubious assertions. In this work, we establish a simple mathematical model for conspiracies involving multiple actors with time, which yields failure probability for any given conspiracy. Parameters for the model are estimated from literature examples of known scandals, and the factors influencing conspiracy success and failure are explored. The model is also used to estimate the likelihood of claims from some commonly-held conspiratorial beliefs; these are namely that the moon-landings were faked, climate-change is a hoax, vaccination is dangerous and that a cure for cancer is being suppressed by vested interests. Simulations of these claims predict that intrinsic failure would be imminent even with the most generous estimates for the secret-keeping ability of active participants—the results of this model suggest that large conspiracies (≥1000 agents) quickly become untenable and prone to failure. The theory presented here might be useful in counteracting the potentially deleterious consequences of bogus and anti-science narratives, and examining the hypothetical conditions under which sustainable conspiracy might be possible.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0147905

Reminds me of a counter-argument by Stanislaw Lem that in aliens were able to reach earth they should be able to hide well enough not to be found by humans. ;)


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The politics like that, than it window cleaning, the dirt is on the other side always.

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http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/2 ... ing-goods/


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eugen-b wrote:
A mathematical take on conspiracy theories:
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0147905

Reminds me of a counter-argument by Stanislaw Lem that in aliens were able to reach earth they should be able to hide well enough not to be found by humans. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:12 pm 
The Documentary the Koch Brothers Don’t Want You to See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLj5WugkzHQ

Oh look! Not those very same tar-sands I touched on in something I posted earlier :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:


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Get that picture of Obama actually bowing to the king of Saudi :roll:

Why does the President of the Land of the Free feel obliged to bow to some foreign king?


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Maybe, there was not a crane, which got the gold chain for the demolition of Syria, there let him put it into his neck.

Because America does not believe in the peace in fact, and does not believe the international one-, not concerned in human rights. America believes in the money only. And for him today Islamic country, the moderate rebels report the money.

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The Syrian conflict is about this in fact.
The bloody, destructive war, which yields money for them because they need it, is United States' of America peace. Their propagandists draw peace doves though meanwhile, and a couple of news channels are operated in all developed country, where systematically Aszadra and the crimes against humankind committed by the moderate terrorists are imputed the Russians, praising the American government, the one that fetched the peace one originally (too) into a peaceful country.

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Though the reality totally other

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It chance, that onto the fight or is able to defend himself men it is removed from this Middle Eastern area, the area grows for Israel and Saudi Arabia, and migrations export Europe.


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