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antiX-xfce-alpha1 available for testing

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: antiX-xfce-alpha1 available for testing Reply with quote

Available for testing is an xfce version of antiX. (187MB)
(when upload is finished)

It is very basic, being based on the antiX-base with xfce from Debian Testing added.

It is not a full xfce install, just the minimum.

So what does it have?

The same as antiX-base http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11449
plus xfce desktop environment including thunar file manager.

Please note this is an untested alpha release, and suitable for those who wish to 'play' and give feedback. It is also 'unsupported', in the sense that I know very little about xfce. I'm sure other antiX users and MepisLovers will chip in though to help.

At login, default is fluxbox, which includes the Mepis tools in the menu.
To login to xfce, simply toggle the F1 key to xfce, before pressing Enter.
The xfce menu doesn't show the Mepis tools (I think), so any configuration ie network will have to be done via a terminal as root.
mnetwork
muser
msystem
mconfig
minstall

Feedback would be much appreciated and also helpers/developers willing to take on the project are encouraged.

Here it is:

http://mepis.gabston-howell.org/download/testing/AntiX
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Xfce4 installed on top of Lysistrata the Mepis tools can be found with "appfinder" which I think has to be installed. I found the menus are a little messy with this install.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: antiX-xfce-alpha1 available for testing Reply with quote

anticapitalista wrote:
Available for testing is an xfce version of antiX. (187MB)
(when upload is finished)


Downloading now.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks eriefisher for the tip.

dieselbenz,

It isn't up yet? or is it?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anticapitalista wrote:
Thanks eriefisher for the tip.

dieselbenz,

It isn't up yet? or is it?


Smile when you say that. Rolling Eyes

Yea, it was available for download about 5:30 CST/US.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anticapitalista wrote:
Thanks eriefisher for the tip.

dieselbenz,

It isn't up yet? or is it?


Maybe I misunderstood. By "up" did you mean available for download (it is) or did you mean I was running it on my laptop (not yet)?

Four minutes remaining on the download, then burn the ISO to CD, get the computer out of the Benz ... should have my first look at it in about 20 minutes.

As an aside, today I not only loaded XFCE2 but also Gnome! Although the SID repo has pushed my system far from virgin antiX, you can now lay claim a nicely-working antiX-Gnome system out there in farm country.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: antiX-xfce-alpha1 available for testing Reply with quote

anticapitalista wrote:
Available for testing is an xfce version of antiX. (187MB)
(when upload is finished)


Up and running in live CD mode. I have no issues with it -- looks great. I don't have enough XFCE experience to speak to the menus, etc. I've been pretty much KDE and, occasionally, Gnome.

Planning to release an XFCE version of "less light" antiX? I think it would be a keeper.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Xfce4 menu Reply with quote

I added the Mepis tools to the xfce4 menu.
(/home/user/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml)

Quote:
<menu name="Settings" icon="gnome-settings">
<app name="Settings Manager" cmd="xfce-setting-show" icon="gnome-settings" snotify="true"/>
</menu>
<separator/>
<menu name="Mepis Tools">
<app name="Network" cmd="gksu mnetwork"/>
<app name="Add User" cmd="gksu muser"/>
<app name="System" cmd="gksu msystem"/>
<app name="Xconfig" cmd="gksu mxconfig"/>
</menu>



The actual entry is bold. The top lines are just for a marker.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, if you mix Antix with KDE how much of simplymepis will you get? Are there some essential differences between Antix with xfce and symplymepis with xfce (assuming someone will replace kde with xfce)?

A recent article on alternative linux desktops:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2415-10877_11-176034.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eriefisher - Never thought of editing the menu file by hand. I have always created .desktop entries by editing existing ones (/usr/share/applications) (btw - most app icons are in /usr/share/pixmaps). I am using dreamlinux at the moment. They have a really nice gui to create .desktop entries. I was hoping I could install their package in antix. It will be awhile before I can test this out. Here's a tip:

If an app doesn't appear in the menu right away, just open up xfce's menu editor (should be under settings) and do these steps:
1. Check any box on the right side.
2. Uncheck the box (very important step).
3. Click save.
You should now see your menu entry.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.ee wrote:
Just curious, if you mix Antix with KDE how much of simplymepis will you get? Are there some essential differences between Antix with xfce and symplymepis with xfce (assuming someone will replace kde with xfce)?

A recent article on alternative linux desktops:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2415-10877_11-176034.html


Unless you change the repos, installing kde will download the kde from the Mepis repos and not the debian one, so you should get the Mepis/kde setup. You won't get other non-kde apps that Mepis uses though.

antiX with xfce will be much smaller and lighter than Mepis with xfce. In fact people are having problems installing xfce on Mepis 7 (testing) due to dependency problems.
I made available an antiX-xfce basic iso of 187MB, that allows you to install your apps. Ideal for those that want almost total control of what goes on their antiX box. This antiX-xfce, I have found to be very fast and responsive, especially using opera for a browser even on 128MB RAM in VirtualBox.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this clarifying answer.

What is actually faster or more responsive, Antix-fluxbox or Antix-xcfe? ough.

I would be interested to read more about the specifics of Antix technology vs Debian and Mepis, just to know. I guess it is not Fluxbox alone which makes difference. I haven't seen it written up somewhere, but I was not searching hard.

I think, after getting more acquainted with the system, I will go for Antix-base, too. Right now I just don't have a free partition left to test it on.
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