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 Post subject: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:59 pm 
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Hi antiXiers.

I every day connect to proxy with login, adhoc, hidden Wifi, free Wifi for this Wicd is week, better is NetworkManager.

I test installation NM:
sudo apt-get install --dry-run network-manager | grep systemd
libnm0 libpam-systemd libseccomp2 libteamdctl0 libudev1 nfs-common systemd
systemd-shim sysvinit-utils udev usb-modeswitch util-linux
libteam-utils open-iscsi watchdog systemd-ui systemd-container comgt
libndp0 libnih-dbus1 libnih1 libnm0 libpam-systemd libseccomp2 libteamdctl0
network-manager systemd systemd-shim xserver-xorg-input-libinput
Inst libfdisk1 (2.28.1-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64])
Conf libfdisk1 (2.28.1-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64])
Inst init-system-helpers [1.22+nosystemd1] (1.42 Debian:testing [all]) []
Inst util-linux [2.25.2-6.0nosystemd1] (2.28.1-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64])
Conf util-linux (2.28.1-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64])
Inst xserver-xorg-core [2:1.16.4-1] (2:1.18.4-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64]) [xserver-xorg-input-synaptics:amd64 xserver-xorg-input-evdev:amd64 ]
Inst systemd (231-4 Debian:testing [amd64])
Inst systemd-shim (10-2 Debian:testing [amd64])
Inst libpam-systemd (231-4 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf xserver-xorg-core (2:1.18.4-1.0nosystemd1 antiX repository:3.1/testing [amd64])
Conf systemd (231-4 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf systemd-shim (10-2 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libpam-systemd (231-4 Debian:testing [amd64])

Wut? Systemd?

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:09 pm 
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Yep. What is your question?

Code:
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$ sudo apt-get -s install network-manager
[sudo] password for harry:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:54 pm 
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Yes, this answer I got in antiX 15 and antiX 16 wants install systemd.

NM can compile without systemd and I know one former developer :)

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:21 pm 
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bedna wrote:
Yes, this answer I got in antiX 15 and antiX 16 wants install systemd.

NM can compile without systemd and I know one former developer :)


Make or find a systemd-free deb of network-manager and we'll include it in our repos.

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:03 am 
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Mx uses network manager does it not?
Does it then include systemd components even though mx runs with sysv?

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:11 am 
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@ Dave - yes, network-manager needs libsystemd0 and libpam-systemd. Installing both will not force systemd to become the init system (like on MX), but it drags in systemd libraries which antiX tries to avoid.

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:55 pm 
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I write about it with Pavlix and I look for solutions.
In second stage I will try to Lubomir Rintel for better cooperation on development NM without systemd.
One of the ways is compiling Gentoo NM without systemd, we will see...
When it will be OK, can I participate as a packager NM for antiX?

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 Post subject: Re: NetworkManager
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:53 am 
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bedna wrote:
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When it will be OK, can I participate as a packager NM for antiX?


Definitely!

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