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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:22 am 
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Look in the Announcements section, have a read through.

http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Testing/

will take you there.

Also, if I may point out my earlier:

antix-core-486-a1-on-really-old-hardware-t2528.html


Found more info, maybe not for you specifically, but why not post it up?

SBM

http://paulski.com/zpages.php?id=1612

Freebootdisck

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

softsea.com

http://www.softsea.com/review/Smart-Boot-Manager.html


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:31 am 
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For what it is worth, I have Antix 8.5 installed on my Toshiba 2180CDT laptop and I am very happy with it so far.

This laptop is "old" to most people, but is one of my newer ones. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems to have an AMD K6 474MHz processor and 192Mb of Ram.

I use a PCMCIA card to connect wirelessly to our internet router and Iceape does a pretty good job so far.

There is not enough processor power to display Youtube realtime, but at least I can save the flash files from the tmp directory and play them back later. Email and general surfing is a breeze. No more windows viruses!!

Yes, I'd love a faster machine, but the reason for sticking with this laptop is that I have very little electricity in my workshop (it is all run on solar power) so can't afford to run a desktop PC as it drains the battery bank too quickly.

Abiword is great (although I love Ooo and would use it if I had more cpu power available).

Wireless setup was a breeze. Sound card works well (even though many other distros tried on this laptop couldn't handle it).

Considering I am pretty much a Linux virgin, I am really happy with what Antix 8.5 has allowed me to achieve on this machine. I know there are other small distros that seem quicker, but they all had their little problems, but Antix seemed to set itself up so easily and seems to fit my needs for now. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Interesting thread.
KingoBongo, may I ask why you insist on installing antiX rather than pure Debian on such an old machine?
Sounds difficult with a GUI/live installer, and the problem is also that you have a Mepis kernel which is really geared towards newer hardware, tries to incorporate as many drivers as possible.
Which is all good but on REAL old hardware it just creates probs I would think..

Debian 6 is round the corner, why not just wait until you can get CD's for that?

Puppy is great too, it flies on my eee 701 running from a crap (so called) mp4 player I bought for 9 euros on ebay. Useless as music player but has 16gb storage which can only be formatted as FAT so it's great for Puppy.
I thought Puppy was supposed to be expandable to a debian system?
havent bothered to try though

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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:17 am 
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I just found on the net an info to make a serial mouse work in squeeze.
Code:
aptitude install inputattach

Then launch it with
Code:
inputattach --microsoft /dev/ttyS0


The page says it needs to be launched everytime at login time.
http://solucoeslinux.webnode.com.br/products/k62-300/


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:12 am 
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Nice find, secipolla!
It works for my two-button Microsoft mouse, using that command (inputattach --microsoft /dev/ttyS0) from a terminal or the console as root. Better from the console, it sticks to the x session(s); also with gpm installed and running as a daemon/service, off to x-less land.
Have not found a way to get inputattach to work right away. So far have tried, in M11:
- antiXcc --> Session --> Edit Login Options. Add a line to .xinitrc
- Menu --> Other --> add start. Add that command to the antiXStartup
- Using the command inputattach --daemon (from the man page)


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:22 pm 
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Maybe put the command in /etc/rc.local ?


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:24 pm 
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"The page says it needs to be launched everytime at login time"
So far that is the only way I've got it to work.

Anybody know better?

Mind you, this is good news for serial mice fans.


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:46 pm 
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If that command is run by the normal user (not root) I think it should work launching it with icewm.
Try editing ~/.icewm/startup by hand and maybe adding a sleep delay.
Code:
sleep 9 && inputattach --microsoft /dev/ttyS0 &


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:22 pm 
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Maybe put the command in /etc/rc.local ? Yes indeed, that works.

This works on my P200MMX, antiX-M11-base, freshly installed with 64M ram:

inputattach --daemon --microsoft /dev/ttyS0

However, have had weirdness happen sometimes on some other machines in my menagerie. Eg, a Dell P4, 1.7GHz, 384 M ram. With the command in rc.local, it works for the gui, but makes
the console go black, no response to keyboard except three-fingered-salute (Ctrl-Alt-Del)
to reboot; this did not happen if the command was given from console alone (ie rc.local not modified).

Ah well, mysteries of hardware. Did try other suggestions, also some reckless playing around of my
own with things that led to breaking, new install needed.

This is a useful utility for freeing-up a usb, or just using some of the other peripherals
that are supported, does more than mice. Very tiny.


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:41 am 
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Ok, not much activity on this thread for a while - but I have a question regarding xorg.conf on M8.5-486

After I installed Antix on my Tosh 2180CDT it would boot and run well, but the screen resolution was wrong. I could rightclick the desktop and correct the res via AntixCC but it would not be retained for next boot.

If I tried renaming the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file so that it could not be found, the system would always thereafter boot into the correct resolution.

Why would this happen?

Presumably once the xorg.conf file becomes unavailable, the system must be looking somewhere else for the display resolution specs.

Is there some sort of backup of xorg.conf? Or when this file is missing, does the kernel fallback to some internal defaults?

I've tried several distros, and have found that there seem to be so many places that influence the x settings - it seems so hard to pin down the ONE location that will correctly describe the screen and mouse settings.

Any ideas why Antix still boots ok (in fact even better than usual) when I make xorg.conf inaccessible?

thx


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 Post subject: Re: antix-m8.5-486 on old hardware
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:54 pm 
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IIRC, the current "x" does not really need the xorg.conf file at all, and will try to choose settings that make sense for the hardware. However, the if the xorg.conf is present, the settings there will override and take precedent over whatever else x does when it starts.

**did some quick googling, and x.org will use XRandR to set the display to a suitable default unless an xorg.conf file overrides the settings***

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